REVELATION PRESS RELEASE ON CURRENT ISSUES AND MEMBER DEPATURE

Jn Michel wrote:I see and understand both of you guys point of view. Now I would like to learn a little more from you guys. What is kompa direk? please give me the full definition. Thank you

hey ive been playing kompas along with many diffirent secular music. ive researched the father kompas and on his web site he attaches himself and his music to egypt and thier gods. im not saying that gospel cant be in kompa but it should be in a style distinctive from the secular. i have produced with some of the top haitian artist and they take the time to produce something different. true Gospel music once heard should be difined not confused with something else not even close.

HI everyone,
mwne kontan li tout moun ki gen bon lide, ak tout moun ki panse yo gen bon lide yo, anyway li toujours bon pou yon moun bay opinion pa li and di exactement sa li panse. but mwne lire article verite ecri an, li te ka fe sans si tout fwas li te informe. but mwne menm se youn lan moun ki ap fe jefò pou trouve royaume Christ lan and li vraiment fe mwne malad, le mwne we jan de komante sa yo de la part de moun ki di yo se Chretien. mwne ap fe Music depuis jeune Age mwne, and Bondje servi ak mwne ak talent ke mwne genyen nan anpil Okazyon, yon diference ke souvan jeune nou yo pa fe, li existe deux type de moun ki jwe musique nan levanjel, li genyen le Chretien et l'artiste, mwne pral exprime mwne

Artsite yo se sa ki kwe yo Stars ou superstar, men Chretien yo, se sa ki kwe malgre exploit yo ka fe ak talent Bondje bay yo ki se jwe music, yon genyen pou Mission cherche nanm ki perdu, Bondje bay piti li talent, inteligence ak bon komprann le ou se yon chretien ki ap jwe musique pour Bondje, menm le ou lan yon Koncert, le St Esprit Bondje desann se pou ou ka kanpe jwe music and prier pou sa yo ki pi feb lan se pou menm se yon musique cho ou slow ki ap jwe se pou moun ka touche paske kote St-Esprit Bondje ye li fe santi li, mwne konn we moun ki ap tombe lan service louange pou Bondje et mwne we moun tou ki tombe e ki sele anba st-esprit Bondje le yo ap fe adoration. li vraiment triste pou Yon Chretien Panse la Musique se pa yon bagay ki soti de Bondje li ye. Konpa se lan Culture Haitienne lan li Soti and andedan legliz yo se li yo jwe en Haiti, kote pou moun beni yo, yo toujours beni, but kiyes moun ki jwe Konpa andedan Groupe Evagelik Haitien yo Jodi an, Eske se Chretien ou bien Artiste.

Phareceleste,
It's not rocket science, simply "answers.com"

No disrespect Ti Bob, just saying.

_Your Humble Servant.

Humble Servant. wrote:No disrespect Ti Bob, just saying.

??? I'm totally lost ??? ???

Oh, well...never mind!

_Your Humble Servant

I HAVE A LOT TO SAY
FIRST REVELATION PLEASE DONT DO THIS TO ME BECAUSE THE SAME WEEKEND OF KOMPA FEST ONE OF YOUR CURRENT MEMBERS WAS PLAYING WITH HARMONICK WHO IS NOT A GOSPEL BAND.
SECOND VERITE THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT KOMPA. WE ARE HAITIAN KOMPA IS OUR CULTURE. JUST LIKE REGGEA IS FOR THE JAMAICAN. I HAVE BEEN IN A COUPLE OF JAMAICAN CHURCHES AND LET ME TELL YOU DANCE HALL REGGEA.SPANISH CHURCH SAMETHING THEY PLAY THEIR SALSA MERENGE. WHEN YOU GO TO AN AMERICAN CHURCH THEY PLAY GOSPEL WHITCH HAS SOME SORT OF ROCK AND rnb IN IT. MWEN PAP VIN FE JE BOUCHE JE PETE MEDIOKRITE DI MWEN PAKA JWE KOMPA NAN LEGLIZ. SO VERITE A LIL ADVICE GO TO A DIFFERENT CHURCH DIFFERENT CULTURE AM SURE YOU GOING TO CHANGE YOUR WAY OF THINKING INSTEAD OF SEATING HERE AND FIGHT WITH TIBOB.
TIBOB YOU KNOW TO MUCH FOR ME OK BROTHER. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN BLESS THRU YOUR KOMPA MUSIC. THOSE SONGS KEEP ME MY SPIRIT GOING WHEN I WASIN AFGHANISTAN. YOU WAS IN THE WORLD PLAYING KOMPA AND NOW U DOING IN CHURCH ITS FOR A REASON. YOU ARE THE SECOND ARTIS THAT STARTED PLAYING TRUE KOMPA IN CHURCH. AGAIN VERITE TELL ME WHAT SHOULD WE PLAY IN CHURCH IF WE CANT PLAY KOMPA
ps REVELATION YOU GUYS ARE DOING A GOOD JOB BUT I THINK YOU GUYS COULD OFF HANDLE THIS BETTER

mwenpavoanyen wrote:Artsite yo se sa ki kwe yo Stars ou superstar, men Chretien yo, se sa ki kwe malgre exploit yo ka fe ak talent Bondje bay yo ki se jwe music, yon genyen pou Mission cherche nanm ki perdu, Bondje bay piti li talent, inteligence ak bon komprann le ou se yon chretien ki ap jwe musique pour Bondje, menm le ou lan yon Koncert, le St Esprit Bondje desann se pou ou ka kanpe jwe music and prier pou sa yo ki pi feb lan se pou menm se yon musique cho ou slow ki ap jwe se pou moun ka touche paske kote St-Esprit Bondje ye li fe santi li, mwne konn we moun ki ap tombe lan service louange pou Bondje et mwne we moun tou ki tombe e ki sele anba st-esprit Bondje le yo ap fe adoration. li vraiment triste pou Yon Chretien Panse la Musique se pa yon bagay ki soti de Bondje li ye. Konpa se lan Culture Haitienne lan li Soti and andedan legliz yo se li yo jwe en Haiti, kote pou moun beni yo, yo toujours beni, but kiyes moun ki jwe Konpa andedan Groupe Evagelik Haitien yo Jodi an, Eske se Chretien ou bien Artiste.

im sorry i mean no disrespect to anyone but culture and God has nothing to do with each other. actually in many instances cultures have fallen in conflicts with God. i believe the two should be separate. if someone is worshiping God artistically he or she should be following God's rules they may be influenced by their culture because of exposure but they shouldn't premeditate sounding like the world. the other thing why are we looking at what other people are doing or been doing shouldn't we be looking towards God=The WORD.

Matthew 15:3 And He answered and said to them, "Why do you
... But he answered them, "Why do you also disregard the
commandment of God because of your tradition? ...

Mark 7:13 Thus invalidating the word of God by your tradition ...
... You are destroying the word of God through your tradition that you have
handed down. And you do many other things like that ...

Colossians 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive through
... See to it that no one enslaves you through philosophy and empty deceit according
to human tradition, according to the basic principles of the world, and not ...

Believe me there is more.....

lets do some math
1 Haiti has been indapendent a little over 200 years

2 kompas is only about 60 years old
last i checked konpas came from Nemour Jean Baptiste http://nemoursjnbaptiste.homestead.com/family.html
if you read you will find that he was inspired from the gods of Egypt
didn't God free his people from them and said not to follow their culture in-fact thats why they spent all that time in the desert

3 what where the churches playing before that if we really wanted to follow what the churches in Haiti. which we shouldn't cause we should be following Christ

I agree... WE ARE CHRISTIANS ABOVE ALL ELSE. Culture can never get anyone to heaven.

I CONCUR!

_Your Humble Servant

"My people perish for lack of knowledge." (God)

&abriel, fishing for a couple of verses to make your point does not turn your own opinion into the Word of God. Especially when you miss the whole context or even the very meaning of the words you're quoting.

The word TRADITION does NOT mean CULTURE. You're mixing up your HAITIAN CREOLE definition of the word. In Haitian Creole, Tradisyon = Kilti, but not in French or English.

Traditions are things people do without any clear understanding but they just do it because it was passed down to them. In Traditions, there are more repetition than anything.

Culture is everything a nation does, how they think, how they live, their music, their religion, their cuisine, their philosophy, their beliefs, their customs, their traditions, their technological developments etc... Everybody is a product of culture or cultures. Traditions are only one very small part of culture. For example, debating on the net has become part of our culture.

The Bible has 100% to do with the culture of Israel. God/Jesus didn't want His people to keep CERTAIN TRADITIONS & TRAITS of that culture when they were in contradiction with His will. But that doesn't mean ALL traditions or (even more abherrant) the whole culture is something God/Jesus was against.

Levanjil pa fèt nan voye monte.

I want to start a new thread: What Type of Music for the Haitian Christian? Because I see the need for it. Not only here but in a lot of venues where the lack of social knowledge, the lack of history knowledge and the lack of the Word of God, net of any doctrine, is killing the people of God.

But I don't want to embed it here since this current post has more to do with Revelation Press Release.

I would also want that thread to have a front page link. So please, Levanjiltv, can you help?

Levanjiltv, as requested before, is it possible to allow posters to edit their own post a few hours after they post? You said you fixed that problem but it's still there. Only the "QUOTE" button exist. We need an "EDIT" button too.

Thanks.

tibobdenazareth wrote:&abriel, fishing for a couple of verses to make your point does not turn your own opinion into the Word of God. Especially when you miss the whole context or even the very meaning of the words you're quoting.

The word TRADITION does NOT mean CULTURE. You're mixing up your HAITIAN CREOLE definition of the word. In Haitian Creole, Tradisyon = Kilti, but not in French or English.

Traditions are things people do without any clear understanding but they just do it because it was passed down to them. In Traditions, there are more repetition than anything.

Culture is everything a nation does, how they think, how they live, their music, their religion, their cuisine, their philosophy, their beliefs, their customs, their traditions, their technological developments etc... Everybody is a product of culture or cultures. Traditions are only one very small part of culture. For example, debating on the net has become part of our culture.

The Bible has 100% to do with the culture of Israel. God/Jesus didn't want His people to keep CERTAIN TRADITIONS & TRAITS of that culture when they were in contradiction with His will. But that doesn't mean ALL traditions or (even more abherrant) the whole culture is something God/Jesus was against.

Levanjil pa fèt nan voye monte.

1 im sorry that God's word is not surfice for you.
it is my understanding that we should always compare the word with our traditions or culture to confirm that we are in line with God.
when Christ was tempted in the desert he quoted scripture I believe that if we are following Christ we should do the same and look to scripture.

2 in your attempt to clearify the two words you still used tradition as part of the definition of for culture and that is exactly that. the differecnce between the two is one is bigger than the other. one deals with small groups and the other deals in a wider scale.

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(trə-dĭsh'ən)
n.

1. The passing down of elements of a culture from generation to generation, especially by oral communication.
   
2. 
   
   1. A mode of thought or behavior followed by a people continuously from generation to generation; a custom or usage.
      
   2. A set of such customs and usages viewed as a coherent body of precedents influencing the present: followed family tradition in dress and manners. See Synonyms at heritage.
      
   
   
3. A body of unwritten religious precepts.
   
4. A time-honored practice or set of such practices.
   
5. Law Transfer of property to another.
   

[Middle English tradicion, from Old French, from Latin trāditiō, trāditiōn-, from trāditus, past participle of trādere, to hand over, deliver, entrust : trā-, trāns-, trans- + dare, to give; see dō- in Indo-European roots.]

cul·ture
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(kŭl'chər)
n.

1. 
   
   1. The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought.
      
   2. These patterns, traits, and products considered as the expression of a particular period, class, community, or population: Edwardian culture; Japanese culture; the culture of poverty.
      
   3. These patterns, traits, and products considered with respect to a particular category, such as a field, subject, or mode of expression: religious culture in the Middle Ages; musical culture; oral culture.
      
   4. The predominating attitudes and behavior that characterize the functioning of a group or organization.
      
   5. Development of the intellect through training or education.
      
   6. Enlightenment resulting from such training or education.
      
   7. The growing of microorganisms, tissue cells, or other living matter in a specially prepared nutrient medium.
      
   8. Such a growth or colony, as of bacteria.
      
   
   
2. Intellectual and artistic activity and the works produced by it.
   
3. 
   
   1. Development of the intellect through training or education.
      
   2. Enlightenment resulting from such training or education.
      
   3. The growing of microorganisms, tissue cells, or other living matter in a specially prepared nutrient medium.
      
   4. Such a growth or colony, as of bacteria.
      
   
   
4. A high degree of taste and refinement formed by aesthetic and intellectual training.
   
5. Special training and development: voice culture for singers and actors.
   
6. The cultivation of soil; tillage.
   
7. The breeding of animals or growing of plants, especially to produce improved stock.
   
8. Biology
   
   
   1. The growing of microorganisms, tissue cells, or other living matter in a specially prepared nutrient medium.
      
   2. Such a growth or colony, as of bacteria.
      
   
   

tr.v. cul·tured, cul·tur·ing, cul·tures

1. To cultivate.
   
2. 
   
   1. To grow (microorganisms or other living matter) in a specially prepared nutrient medium.
      
   2. To use (a substance) as a medium for culture: culture milk.
      
   
   

[Middle English, cultivation, from Old French, from Latin cultūra, from cultus, past participle of colere; see cultivate.]

3 in many instances the culture or traditions of the land fall in conflict with God. lets not forget tradition and culture both are difined as the understanding and practices of man.
now if im not mistaken Bibles says "mans wises is God's most foolish...."

4 now here is a question for you i may be confused but please answer me Biblicly cause that is what im following nothing else.

when moses came from the mountain with the ten commandments the people hand created a idol to represent God. they took the traditions or culture of the egyptians to worship God.

kompas is known to be from Nemour, the father of kompas on his web page they state he is influenced by the egyptian gods. it even goes as far as him wanting to go to egypt to worship. we are now taking that rythm to worship God.
now i have read some people say that if you put God's word on it then its blessed but that contidicts Christ when he says not some will call me and i shall not answer...for you did not follow my commandments.

"The dreams of my father exceeded his territorial limits and even spanned continental. He was attracted by the pyramids of Egypt. He felt a close connection between his music and the pyramids. He imagined himself sitting inside these monuments to get inspiration. Timbuktu, city of Mali, once was a great center reputedly for the study of , was also a place of his dreams."

http://nemoursjnbaptiste.homestead.com/family.html

finally i want to say this to be clear i am not againts kompas iam againts Gospel music sounding like the world for the Bible says that we are to be distinguished from the world. i beleive that God has given us talent to create a new kompas thats doesn't sound like the world kompas lets use that talent that comes from our heart as the Bibles says to "worship him with your own heart". if system can sound different from tabou zin from carimi then why not Gospel from secular. ive heard so call gospel music when all they do is recycle secular music, do think God approves?

I mean no harm but to edify or be edified God Bless you all!!!

Well, &abriel my brother, I sincerely don't understand why you had Webster and otehr websites help you write 10,000 words to only repeat something I said in a few.

By saying: "im sorry that God's word is not surfice for you", everybody with a clear mind understands that you didn't get my point and I'm not surprised that you didn't. Your arguing style will lead nowhere. On the contrary, it will keep you on "ignorance Land". I have no plan to follow you on that fruitless path.

Like Jesus said: "Il ne faut pas jeter des perles aux ...".

I just want to leave you with some food for thought if you really want to understand why CULTURE is ESSENTIAL in the Bible.

1) Jesus gave the humility lesson by WASHING THE DISCIPLES' FEET because it was the CULTURE in Israel to have somebody in the house (the lowest on the social ladder) to wash guests' feet before entering the house. That custom was due to the fact that people walked a lot during those times and the roads were very dusty.

So Jesus used a CULTURAL practice to give a divine lesson in humility. Had that custom not part of Israel culture, Jesus would have still given the lesson in humility but using another means. It's not the MEANS, it's the PURPOSE (lesson). [Remember, Music is a MEANS of communication, not the PURPOSE of communication].

2) In the noces of Canah, Jesus changed water in wine because it was the CULTURE of the people to serve and drink a lot of wine in wedding celebrations. Had it not been so, for example if the people of Israel and surroundings were like Haitians, Jesus would have had to change water in COLA or LIMONADE because there wouldn't be any wine at the party.

Jesus used a CULTURAL practice to give a divine manifestation of His miracle powers. Had that custom not part of Israel culture, Jesus would have still manifested his miracle powers but using another means. It's not the MEANS, it's the PURPOSE (lesson). [Remember, Music is a MEANS of communication, not the PURPOSE of communication].

And I can go on and on and on. BOTTOM LINE: Culture is inevitable because every man defines himself by his culture. When certain traits of a culture contradict God's way, God wants us to let go. Otherwise, God uses our culture to define His communication with us.

That's why Jesus said to the disciples that if He was using heavenly tongues to explain heavenly matters, we humans wouldn't get sqwat. So He uses common elements of our CULTURE for us to understand His Kingdom.

[Remember, Music is a MEANS of communication, not the PURPOSE of communication].

Every nation uses music genres that are part of their respective culture to praise and worship God and to also preach/spread the word. But because Haiti is an underdeveloped country, most Haitians, still bound by the chains of IMPORTED CULTURAL SLAVERY, reject what's theirs to embrace the music styles of their historic masters.

That's why Most Haitians (because undeveloped) think that Jazz or Opera or Blues is better than konpa. And since we all know the level of education has been historically low among the Haitian Christian Protestants, the same colonized mentality even made it to the way people -by lack of education- expect us to use music for God's Kingdom purposes.

When education fails, religious fanaticism tries to fill up the gaps. But kay koule twonpe solèy, men l pa ka twonpe lapli. The Haitian Gospel sector has changed during the past decades because a lot of well-educated people have been given their lives to Christ. So a lot of things that used to fly with the "TET MARE" followers can't go on anymore.

[Remember, Music is a MEANS of communication, not the PURPOSE of communication].

Anmwey. Gade yon Tibob Bondye voye pou nou mezanmi. Mwen pat janm panse Haitien te ba konsa non. Yo di sa yo vle, yo fe sa yo vle, yo panse sa yo vle san yo pa imagine. Yon blan cheve long paret devan yo ap preche yo pa di anyen. Yon Haitien cheve long paret devan yo nan legliz la yo vle touyel. Sa se problem culture. Si yon fi blan paret devan yo nan leglise la ak yon pantalon acompanye maril ki vinn preche yo bal vag. Yo di petet se kiltil. Men si yon fi nwa ta fe sa yap pann li. Revelation nap jwenn anpil moun vle touye nou pou sa nap fe a. Men se pou nou kenbe ferm paske nou konnen se pou Bondye nap fel. Moun sa yo se satan ki aji nan yo paske satan pa vle nou fe bel bagay pou Bondye. Setan vle music Haitien an se li menm selman pou li bay glwa. Kou li we nap jwe byen li ta vle nou jwe pou li le konsa li voye tout move air pou dekouraje nou. Li bliye si premye chante nou an di satanm pa pew. Li panse se jwet. Li panse se jwe nap jwe. Ebyen satan men paw.

AHHHH Alphonse fe anpil atensyon!!!! Bondye pap juje tout moun menm jan non, paske se sa blan chwazi pou'l fe pa eseye pran daso sou yo non! when you know different. St. Espri eduke tout moun diferan, pa adopte chemen lot moun paske se pou wou lap pi mal. FET ATANSYON! SALVATION IS PERSONAL!!!!!!!!

Besides, T-BOB I had time to only read your first comment to Gabriel, not sure if you realized alot of the things he said you completely backed up.

May it be in whatever language, tradisyon Bib ak langaj Kris met nan men'w lan se li pou'w swiv!

SI ORIGINALITE MUZIK LA PA VINI DE DYE, POUKI NOU PA ESYE FE PA NOU DIFERAN INSTEAD OF DEFENDING A CAUSE THAT IS NOT EVEN HOLY!

_Your Humble servant

ANTOUKA MWEN MENM MWEN DI SA SI SE POU KOZE KILTI SA &abriel ZANMINM OU FE ANPIL PECHE PASKE EKIP MANGE AYISIEN OU MANJE YO FOK OU AL RAN BONDYE KONT DE YO PASKE OU DI BONDYE PA NAN ZAFE KILTI A PETET OU RENMEN TI FRITAY OU ANPIL API DEVAN DIRI KOLE AK PWA OU OU PA DANSE KOLE AK PESON. LE WAP BWE YON JI PAPAY MENM MENM TELEPHONE OU PAP REPON. TI KOMPRESS OU LE TET OU AP FEW MAL SE PAPALE. MONCHE &abriel BAYBAGY SA VAG TANDE PASKE OU PATISIPE KONT OU NAN KILTI EPI APRE WAP DI LI PA BIBLIK. EPI MWEN MENM SISPEK TI TABLO ATIS YO PENTIRE AMBA LAVIL YO LAKAY OU CHAGE. EPI MONCHE PA PALE KREYOL ANKO PASKE SE KILTI LI YE TOU CHECHE YON LOT LANG OU PALE

Se sa map eseye explike humble ke Gabriel pa konprann. Gen blan gason levanjil ki pote cheve long men li pa peche pou yo paske yo leve konsa. Sa se kilti yo. Malgre bib la di se pou gason koupe cheve yo sa pa vle di yo pa koupe cheve yo pou sa. Yo koupel men yo koupel a yon longuer. Menm jan an tou nou menm Haitien nou leve nou jwenn konpa. Konpa pa mizik Nemours Jn Batiste ni se pa li ki te kreyel. Moun pa konn kreye. Se Bondye sel ki konn kreye. Se satan selman ki pou fe Kretyen fe ere sa pou yo ta arive di moun kreye. Se Nemour ki devlope still konpa a ak enteligence Bondye ba li. Se pa pyes satan nan tomb en egypt ki te ba lil. Se style Spanish yo ak still african yo li mete ansanb ki vin bali style Haitien an ke nou menm tou nou vini gen yon mix culture. Music Nemour te konn jwe a se pa li ki konpa jodia. Ou met tap peyem mwen pap pedi tanm tande konpa nemour yo ankor. Nou vini gen yon lot konpa jodia kote si li pa gen new siwel yo li pa ladan. Si guitar a pa gen chorus la li pa ladanl. si bateur a paka fe matinet nan batri a li pako bon. Nou menm kretyen sispann di se Nemour ki te kreye konpa paske moun pa konn kreye. Bondye kreye syel la ak te a ak tout sa ki ladanl nan 6 jours.

Alphonse wrote:Se sa map eseye explike humble ke Gabriel pa konprann. Gen blan gason levanjil ki pote cheve long men li pa peche pou yo paske yo leve konsa. Sa se kilti yo. Malgre bib la di se pou gason koupe cheve yo sa pa vle di yo pa koupe cheve yo pou sa. Yo koupel men yo koupel a yon longuer. Menm jan an tou nou menm Haitien nou leve nou jwenn konpa. Konpa pa mizik Nemours Jn Batiste ni se pa li ki te kreyel. Moun pa konn kreye. Se Bondye sel ki konn kreye. Se satan selman ki pou fe Kretyen fe ere sa pou yo ta arive di moun kreye. Se Nemour ki devlope still konpa a ak enteligence Bondye ba li. Se pa pyes satan nan tomb en egypt ki te ba lil. Se style Spanish yo ak still african yo li mete ansanb ki vin bali style Haitien an ke nou menm tou nou vini gen yon mix culture. Music Nemour te konn jwe a se pa li ki konpa jodia. Ou met tap peyem mwen pap pedi tanm tande konpa nemour yo ankor. Nou vini gen yon lot konpa jodia kote si li pa gen new siwel yo li pa ladan. Si guitar a pa gen chorus la li pa ladanl. si bateur a paka fe matinet nan batri a li pako bon. Nou menm kretyen sispann di se Nemour ki te kreye konpa paske moun pa konn kreye. Bondye kreye syel la ak te a ak tout sa ki ladanl nan 6 jours.

EPI SE FINI
CASE CLOSE
MWEN RENMEN KILTI MWEN OU MET DI SA OU VLE MAP TOUJOU JWE KOMPA MWEN SE LI MWEN KONNAN MWEN PA FEL POU LEMOND SOU POU BONDJE MWEN FE LI. SI JE YON MOUN BOUCHE POU DI KOMPA PA BON SE PEYI OU WAP DANSAN SE SAK FE ANPIL BAGAY AYISIAN PA MACHE. YO MENM RIVE NAN YON NIVO KOTE KE NI AYISIAN NAN USA NI AYISIAN AYITI PA MENM VLE PITI YO PALE KREYOL. LI LE LI TAN POU SA FINI MEZANMI LA BIB PA DI POU NO VOYE PEYI NOU JETER. SA KAP DI OU PA TANDE KOMPE TI CHAN SONET FRANSEZ YOU TRE FO ANDEDAN MACHINE YOU. PANDAN SE TAN SA KI POU AYITI YO PA VLE WEL LI. AYISIAN PA VLE WE AYISIEN PAREY YO SE SAK FE NOU PAKA FE YON PA LI LE LI TAN POU SA CHANGE. LEMOND FE LI. KRETIAN YO MENM FEL TOU EPI YAP SEREL ABA DE GRIN FESE KE PAFWA YO PA MENM KOMPRAN. MEZENMI AND SISPAN MEDIOKRITE. SI OU PA KOMPRAN SA PA VLE DI OU SOT. SISPAN DI PAM PI BON. LA BIB RENMEN KILTI JEZI TE KENBE KILTI LI LE LI TE VIN SOU LA TAN. JEZI THE KON FE CHAPENT AK JOSEPH MEB LI TE KON FE YO SE KILTI LI LI YE.

Humble Servant. wrote: SI ORIGINALITE MUZIK LA PA VINI DE DYE, POUKI NOU PA ESYE FE PA NOU DIFERAN INSTEAD OF DEFENDING A CAUSE THAT IS NOT EVEN HOLY!

Humble Servant, al li Genese 1 & 2. Orijinalite TOUT BAGAY (donk mizik tou) sòti de Bondye. E Labib di nou ke BONDYE WE KE TOUT BAGAY LI KREYE YO BON!!!

Mizik se yon bagay entanjib; sa vle di w pa ka manyen l. Se enstriman yo ki palpab. Yon sèl enstriman ka jwe yon dividal stil mizik. E kòm tout sa Bondye kreye bon, tout enstriman sou latè ladan l bon.

Si m itilize tanbou ak senbal pou regle koze Satan, se pa tanbou a ak senbal la ki pa sot de Dye. Se sa m ap fè a ki kont volonte Bondye. Paske nan Sòm 150, li ekri klè ke TOUT MOUN SOU LATE DWE BAY BONDYE GLWA AK KOUT SENBAL, KOUT TANBOU, KOUT TWONPET AK TOUT ENSTRIMAN KI FE BRI!!!

Moun ki te vin ak levanjil Ayiti yo se blanmannan, Eropeyen ak Ameriken. Pèp sa yo, daprè KILTI mizik yo, se ak òg plis lòty enstriman ki pa twò sanble ak sa nou gen lakay yo t ap bay Bondye glwa. Chenn lesklavay la kase nan pye nou, men pou anpil nan nou, brenn yo toujou mare. Yo toujou mezire sa y ap fè, menm jan pou yo sèvi Bondye nan zafè mizik, selon sa Kolon Blan te pote ba yo.

"Pèp mwen an ap peri paske l sòt" (Bondye).

I came to this thread mostly to give revelation and the other Gospel bands some advice as to how they need to adjust their music to cleanse it off secular destructive tendencies, but I see others here have much bigger issues.

They are still rejecting themselves, as a result of continued slavery (cultural at least). And they think they are in a position to dictate to the free how they should follow God. SO IRONIC!!!

Se sa k fè peyi nou tètanba, legliz nou tètanba ... nou tètanba tout kote nou pase.