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speedy wrote:ANTOUKA MWEN MENM MWEN DI SA SI SE POU KOZE KILTI SA &abriel ZANMINM OU FE ANPIL PECHE PASKE EKIP MANGE AYISIEN OU MANJE YO FOK OU AL RAN BONDYE KONT DE YO PASKE OU DI BONDYE PA NAN ZAFE KILTI A PETET OU RENMEN TI FRITAY OU ANPIL API DEVAN DIRI KOLE AK PWA OU OU PA DANSE KOLE AK PESON. LE WAP BWE YON JI PAPAY MENM MENM TELEPHONE OU PAP REPON. TI KOMPRESS OU LE TET OU AP FEW MAL SE PAPALE. MONCHE &abriel BAYBAGY SA VAG TANDE PASKE OU PATISIPE KONT OU NAN KILTI EPI APRE WAP DI LI PA BIBLIK. EPI MWEN MENM SISPEK TI TABLO ATIS YO PENTIRE AMBA LAVIL YO LAKAY OU CHAGE. EPI MONCHE PA PALE KREYOL ANKO PASKE SE KILTI LI YE
TOU CHECHE YON LOT LANG OU PALE

just one question to you do think if you commit a sin that you cant tell someone else not to commit that same sin? if that was the case we couldn't raise our children. for some of the things they do or will do sometimes we did. I believe that the things we go through in life is to bare witness for others to learn from to save the others from worse occasions. remember most of God's prophets where sinners but God still used them. this idea of because "i made a mistake and then recognized my wrong and trying to fix it with God" and i cant help another person is a fallacy. cause it is from my struggle another can relate and i can relate with them cause to help someone you must understand them first.
if i get a speeding ticket on rt95 and my friend is speeding the next day should i not tell him because i did it too. would it be wise for him to ignore my warning cause i did the same thing. i think this is the trick of the devil to trap us all in the same trap. thank you for your commit God Bless

[color=red]MALHEUR A MOUN KI FOUYE MENL NAN CUIR LA KI GADE DEYE.. KOURI DEYE POPULARITE AK LAJAN PAP UTIL ANYEN SOU TE SA. GEN ANPIL MUZISYEN KI RENMEN LE MEDAM HALF NAKED NAN BAL YO AP RELE POU YO. SE SAK FE YO PAKA JWE POU JEZU A WI PASKE YO PA WE SA NAN LEGLIZ SERIEUSE YO. MEN SEULMAN PA BLIYE VIE A KOUT. PRAN KONT PLEZIW JODIA MEN LE JOU "BUSINESS" LA RIVE SE VA BOULE TOUT TAN WI FREM HMMMMMMMMMMM.MWEN WE MALE WI SELMAN. MTA SWETE YO PANSE AK SA YO FE A SELMAN. MAP PRIYE POU YO POU YO KA CHECHE CHEMEN DWAT LA ANKO. ONE LOVE ROSINY!! PA DEKOURAJE PASKE YO GEN POU WEW!![/color]

tibobdenazareth wrote:

Humble Servant. wrote: SI ORIGINALITE MUZIK LA PA VINI DE DYE, POUKI NOU PA ESYE FE PA NOU DIFERAN INSTEAD OF DEFENDING A CAUSE THAT IS NOT EVEN HOLY!

Humble Servant, al li Genese 1 & 2. Orijinalite TOUT BAGAY (donk mizik tou) sòti de Bondye. E Labib di nou ke BONDYE WE KE TOUT BAGAY LI KREYE YO BON!!!

Mizik se yon bagay entanjib; sa vle di w pa ka manyen l. Se enstriman yo ki palpab. Yon sèl enstriman ka jwe yon dividal stil mizik. E kòm tout sa Bondye kreye bon, tout enstriman sou latè ladan l bon.Si m itilize tanbou ak senbal pou regle koze Satan, se pa tanbou a ak senbal la ki pa sot de Dye. Se sa m ap fè a ki kont volonte Bondye. Paske nan Sòm 150, li ekri klè ke TOUT MOUN SOU LATE DWE BAY BONDYE GLWA AK KOUT SENBAL, KOUT TANBOU, KOUT TWONPET AK TOUT ENSTRIMAN KI FE BRI!!!

Moun ki te vin ak levanjil Ayiti yo se blanmannan, Eropeyen ak Ameriken. Pèp sa yo, daprè KILTI mizik yo, se ak òg plis lòty enstriman ki pa twò sanble ak sa nou gen lakay yo t ap bay Bondye glwa. Chenn lesklavay la kase nan pye nou, men pou anpil nan nou, brenn yo toujou mare. Yo toujou mezire sa y ap fè, menm jan pou yo sèvi Bondye nan zafè mizik, selon sa Kolon Blan te pote ba yo.

"Pèp mwen an ap peri paske l sòt" (Bondye).

God created all things and saw it was good. lets look at that. lets not forget that good is a perspective. God did create the tree of knowledge, not everything created was to be used by all beings he created a balance. even today in nature some animals can eat certain foods that others cant. in others words there are things in this world not for us to touch. also lets not forget that the devil defiles God's creations for his gain. again i say let us take time to create a new kompas that when some hears it they can say thats gospel and not confuse it with djakout zin coupe system and so forth those who oppose what is your stand do you not think that God's work should be distinctive from the world. don't anyone to think that this problem is only in the Haitian community there are many american gospel artist like kirk Franklin in the same predicament, hip hop gospel gothic gospel.
recycling secular music is a no no. i can break that down
watch this tell me what you think this is what we are going through it not just us.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUPxJdKKk7s&feature=related

&abriel wrote: ...i say let us take time to create a new kompas that when some hears it they can say thats gospel and not confuse it with djakout zin coupe system and so forth those who oppose what is your stand do you not think that God's work should be distinctive from the world.

FINALLY a point that's worth debating. Like I said before, that was my primary reason for coming on this post.

So yes, &abriel, I agree with you that Gospel artists/bands should definitely play a specific type of Konpa, appropriate to the holy message they're conveying. I'm not gonna name names but we all can witness that the Gospel Music Industry (GMI) is going way too liberal. So liberal that the music swallows the message and people's souls are barely touched or even invoked.

Before I go on with my own predicaments for the improvement of the sector, there's a very important point I'd like to make. Somebody here tried to make that point already but no one paid attention. I'll be back.

tibobdenazareth wrote:

Humble Servant. wrote: SI ORIGINALITE MUZIK LA PA VINI DE DYE, POUKI NOU PA ESYE FE PA NOU DIFERAN INSTEAD OF DEFENDING A CAUSE THAT IS NOT EVEN HOLY!

Humble Servant, al li Genese 1 & 2. Orijinalite TOUT BAGAY (donk mizik tou) sòti de Bondye. E Labib di nou ke BONDYE WE KE TOUT BAGAY LI KREYE YO BON!!!

Mizik se yon bagay entanjib; sa vle di w pa ka manyen l. Se enstriman yo ki palpab. Yon sèl enstriman ka jwe yon dividal stil mizik. E kòm tout sa Bondye kreye bon, tout enstriman sou latè ladan l bon.

Si m itilize tanbou ak senbal pou regle koze Satan, se pa tanbou a ak senbal la ki pa sot de Dye. Se sa m ap fè a ki kont volonte Bondye. Paske nan Sòm 150, li ekri klè ke TOUT MOUN SOU LATE DWE BAY BONDYE GLWA AK KOUT SENBAL, KOUT TANBOU, KOUT TWONPET AK TOUT ENSTRIMAN KI FE BRI!!!

Moun ki te vin ak levanjil Ayiti yo se blanmannan, Eropeyen ak Ameriken. Pèp sa yo, daprè KILTI mizik yo, se ak òg plis lòty enstriman ki pa twò sanble ak sa nou gen lakay yo t ap bay Bondye glwa. Chenn lesklavay la kase nan pye nou, men pou anpil nan nou, brenn yo toujou mare. Yo toujou mezire sa y ap fè, menm jan pou yo sèvi Bondye nan zafè mizik, selon sa Kolon Blan te pote ba yo.

"Pèp mwen an ap peri paske l sòt" (Bondye).

Bondye di tou" Li regret Li te fe Lom avek imaj li"!

Ann ret nan Jenez, apre nou finn peche nou vinn gen konesans du byen e du mal. Nou chwazi fe sa ki mal ak pwodwi kreye pa Dye yo. Si'w koute tet ou selman ou tap jwenn repons ou. Bondye kreye instrumen, men Li ban nou tou konesans byen ak mal, le nou chwazi fe satan plezi ak enstruman nou yo, ou vle di se volonte Bondye kom se Li te kreye enstruman yo?

Kom ou pat konprann, banm eksplike'w: rasinn kompa pa sot nan Kris. "Pa renmen lemond, ni bagay ki nan lemond yo"- Li di sa malgre se Li ki te kreye tout sak nan Lemond. Sa fe'm santi ke, mensi gen bagay ki kreye pa Dye li pa banm pemisyon a tou. (&abriel, ou pran pawol la nan sevel mwen).All the same Bondye kreye enstrumen, jan le zom chwazi ranje melodi yo, pou benefis yo chwazi fe muzik se koze pa yo.

Tande'm byen: KILTI DE WAT???
MWEN SE KRETYENN, JOU'M TE MET JENOU'M ATE MWEN TE BAY KRIS TOUT LAVI'M NAN, TOU MWEN MENM FROM THE INSIDE OUT, CHRIST BECAME MY CULTURE. JESUS IS MY ONLY CULTURE! KILTI PAT VESE SAN'L POU MWEN SOU LA KWA, O KONTRE KILTI KOKOBE PEYI'M!
SAK TE KILTI YA? "SI MAP VIV SE PA MWEN KAP VIV, MEN SE KRIS KAP VIV NAN MWEN" e dapre la pawol Kris pat bay Kilti regle anyen pou...which is why He was crucified.

Ou di "Chenn esklav la kase..." men se oumenm ki pa lib wi fre'm, wap sevi kilti. Bib pa'm nan rakonte'm ke nan levanjil Kris la pa gen "ni Grek, ni esklav, ni lib, ni fanm, ni gason. Nou tout se youn nan Kris" Blan kolon, neg mawon, jwif kreyati Bondye! si nanm mwen beni nan muzik yo...well then , play on brothers.

"Jezu Kri, se menm ye, jodi ya e etenelman". Jan'l te konn rele dokte la lwa yo: SKIB E FARIZYEN IPOKRIT!, Lap fe'l toujou jodi ya! ala engra, pou sa Kris fe pou nou nap kache anba kilti toujou. Map kite'w ak Galat 4 vs 8-11 men fokus plis sou vese 11 lan..."I'm afraid that my work for you has been WASTED" Jesus Christ.

Ak umilite....

_Your Humble Servant.

tibobdenazareth wrote:Well, &abriel my brother, I sincerely don't understand why you had Webster and otehr websites help you write 10,000 words to only repeat something I said in a few.

By saying: "im sorry that God's word is not surfice for you", everybody with a clear mind understands that you didn't get my point and I'm not surprised that you didn't. Your arguing style will lead nowhere. On the contrary, it will keep you on "ignorance Land". I have no plan to follow you on that fruitless path.

Like Jesus said: "Il ne faut pas jeter des perles aux ...".

I just want to leave you with some food for thought if you really want to understand why CULTURE is ESSENTIAL in the Bible.

1) Jesus gave the humility lesson by WASHING THE DISCIPLES' FEET because it was the CULTURE in Israel to have somebody in the house (the lowest on the social ladder) to wash guests' feet before entering the house. That custom was due to the fact that people walked a lot during those times and the roads were very dusty.

So Jesus used a CULTURAL practice to give a divine lesson in humility. Had that custom not part of Israel culture, Jesus would have still given the lesson in humility but using another means. It's not the MEANS, it's the PURPOSE (lesson). [Remember, Music is a MEANS of communication, not the PURPOSE of communication].

2) In the noces of Canah, Jesus changed water in wine because it was the CULTURE of the people to serve and drink a lot of wine in wedding celebrations. Had it not been so, for example if the people of Israel and surroundings were like Haitians, Jesus would have had to change water in COLA or LIMONADE because there wouldn't be any wine at the party.

Jesus used a CULTURAL practice to give a divine manifestation of His miracle powers. Had that custom not part of Israel culture, Jesus would have still manifested his miracle powers but using another means. It's not the MEANS, it's the PURPOSE (lesson). [Remember, Music is a MEANS of communication, not the PURPOSE of communication].

And I can go on and on and on. BOTTOM LINE: Culture is inevitable because every man defines himself by his culture. When certain traits of a culture contradict God's way, God wants us to let go. Otherwise, God uses our culture to define His communication with us.

That's why Jesus said to the disciples that if He was using heavenly tongues to explain heavenly matters, we humans wouldn't get sqwat. So He uses common elements of our CULTURE for us to understand His Kingdom.

[Remember, Music is a MEANS of communication, not the PURPOSE of communication].

Every nation uses music genres that are part of their respective culture to praise and worship God and to also preach/spread the word. But because Haiti is an underdeveloped country, most Haitians, still bound by the chains of IMPORTED CULTURAL SLAVERY, reject what's theirs to embrace the music styles of their historic masters.

That's why Most Haitians (because undeveloped) think that Jazz or Opera or Blues is better than konpa. And since we all know the level of education has been historically low among the Haitian Christian Protestants, the same colonized mentality even made it to the way people -by lack of education- expect us to use music for God's Kingdom purposes.

When education fails, religious fanaticism tries to fill up the gaps. But kay koule twonpe solèy, men l pa ka twonpe lapli. The Haitian Gospel sector has changed during the past decades because a lot of well-educated people have been given their lives to Christ. So a lot of things that used to fly with the "TET MARE" followers can't go on anymore.

[Remember, Music is a MEANS of communication, not the PURPOSE of communication].

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az45YObNquI&feature=related

when teaching something thing unknown to someone we as humans must use something relevant to us, this is a tool. the problem is we are giving the tool more credit and not the works. many of these artist are more concerned about sales themselves and making the people dance, giving them something they like, then giving the word. most of these artist don't even study the word let alone read the Bible how can you preach something you don't know. lots of these songs are grooves at-least the old stuff had lyrics almost all the way through. todays tracks have 8,16,24 bar solos sometime multiple instruments and recycling secular music how does that glorify God.

James 4:4 You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

James 5:20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save his soul from death and will cover a multitude of sins.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az45YObNquI&feature=related
i use all these reference to backup what i understand i stay away from self wisdom.



james 3:13 Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him show by his good behavior his deeds in the gentleness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so lie against the truth. 15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, natural, demonic. 16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing. 17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy. 18 And the seed whose fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

The New Life in the Messiah
colossians 2:20If you have died with the Messiah to the basic principles of the world,[m] why are you submitting to its decrees as though you still lived in the world? 21“Don't handle this! Don't taste or touch that!” 22All of these things will be destroyed as they are used, because they are based on human commands and teachings. 23These things have the appearance of wisdom in promoting self-made religion, humility, and harsh treatment of the body, but they have no value against self-indulgence.

just to let you know i've done research im not speaking in passion im comparing documents and seeing that there are some things in all cultures that are not of God just as there things that don't conflict with God we must distinguish which is good to God with the word.

as for the insults, those are distractions stick to the facts and back it up with the word. i am not moved by that "ignorant island" remark, i am fixed on the word and realize that world will not understand me cause thats what the Bible says.

1 corinthians 1:21 The world with its wisdom was unable to recognize God in terms of his own wisdom. So God decided to use the nonsense of the Good News we speak to save those who believe.

1 Corinthians 1:18 For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

Romans 8:6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but
... For the wisdom of the flesh is death; but the wisdom of the spirit
is life and peace. ... life ..... man ..... mind ..... ...

Ephesians 4
The Messiah's Gifts to the Church
1I, therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, urge you to live in a way that is worthy of the calling to which you have been called, 2demonstrating all expressions of humility, gentleness, and patience, accepting one another in love. 3Do your best to maintain the unity of the Spirit by means of the bond of peace. 4There is one body and one Spirit. Likewise, you were called to the one hope of your calling.
5 There is one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6one God and Father of all,
who is above all, through all, and in all.

7Now to each one of us grace has been given proportionate to the measure of the Messiah's gift. 8That is why God[a] says,
“When he went up to the highest place
he led captives into captivity
and gave gifts to people.”[b]

9Now what does this “he went up” mean except that he also had gone[c] down into the lower parts of the earth?[d] 10The one who went down is the same one who went up above all the heavens so that all things would be fulfilled. 11And it is he who gifted some to be apostles, others to be prophets, others to be evangelists, and still others to be pastors and teachers, 12to equip[e] the saints, to do the work of ministry, and to build up the body of the Messiah 13until all of us are united in the faith and in the full knowledge of God's Son, and until we attain mature adulthood and the full standard of development in the Messiah. 14Then we will no longer be little children, tossed like waves and blown about by every wind of doctrine, by people's trickery, or by clever strategies that would lead us astray. 15Instead, by speaking the truth in love, we will grow up completely and become one with the head, that is, one with the Messiah, 16in whom the whole body is united and held together by every ligament with which it is supplied. As each individual part does its job, the body builds itself up in love.14
The Old Life and the New
17Therefore, I tell you and insist on[f] in the Lord not to live any longer like the gentiles live, thinking worthless thoughts.[g] 18They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of their ignorance and hardness of heart. 19Since they have lost all sense of shame, they have abandoned themselves to sensuality and practice every kind of sexual perversion without restraint. 20However, that is not the way you came to know the Messiah. 21Surely you have listened to him and have been taught by him, since truth is in Jesus. 22Regarding your former way of life, you were taught[h] to strip off your old nature, which is being ruined by its deceptive desires, 23to be renewed in your mental attitude, 24and to clothe yourselves with the new nature, which was created according to God’s image[i] in righteousness and true holiness.
25Therefore, stripping off falsehood, “let each of us speak the truth to his neighbor,”[j] for we belong to one another. 26“Be angry, yet do not sin.”[k] Do not let the sun set while you are still angry, 27and do not give the devil an opportunity to work.[l] 28The thief must no longer steal but must work hard and do what is good with his own hands, so that he might earn something to give to the needy.426
29Let no filthy talk be heard from your mouths, but only what is good for building up people and meeting the need of the moment.[m] This way you will administer grace to those who hear you. 30Do not grieve the Holy Spirit, by whom you were marked with a seal for the day of redemption. 31Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, quarreling, and slander be put away from you, along with all hatred. 32And be kind to one another, compassionate, forgiving one another just as God has forgiven you[n] in the Messiah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3SGsNaUNqs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTH5RY9Levk&NR=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDpLpCQ7YMw&feature=related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Az45YObNquI&feature=related

Please don't fail to mention Colossiens 4:6
"Que votre parole soit toujours accompagnée de grâce, assaisonnée de sel, afin que vous sachiez comment il faut répondre a chacun"


_Your Humble Servant

A moncher Gabriel! banm yon chans poum pale tou non. O O sal ye la? Ou di se plis groov men pa gen ase parol. So what. It's music. It doesn't matter. Atis la pa oblije ap di 50 mil parol. Bondye andwa bali yon messaj ki dire yon sel fraz men kom etan done track music dure anviron 5 minutes. Li jwe instrumental pou res la. Pale saw konnen. Le ou we yon moun ap fe yon bagay cherche konprann avanw pale.

It's not always the word. Gen moun ki konn beni le yo tande music la selman. Yon group gason andwa ap chante kote yap fe harmony a goj yo selman epi nanm moun beni san yo pa di pyes parol. Men moun di Gloire a Dieu paske yo we grandeur Bondye nan group la. Se menm jan an tou le nou we yon bann ti mesye ki gen talan tankou Revelation kap chante e jwe pou Bondye se pou nou di gloire a Dieu paske yo te ka nan T-vice kap chante pou lacher. Yo te ka nan Nu-look kap chante ankor pou lacher men yo chwazi pou chante pou Bondye. Nou di gloire a Dieu le nou we mervey sa. Le wap pale konsa pa dim se exhorte wap exhorte yo paske se pa konsa yo exhorte moun.

Alphonse wrote:A moncher Gabriel! banm yon chans poum pale tou non. O O sal ye la? Ou di se plis groov men pa gen ase parol. So what. It's music. It doesn't matter. Atis la pa oblije ap di 50 mil parol. Bondye andwa bali yon messaj ki dire yon sel fraz men kom etan done track music dure anviron 5 minutes. Li jwe instrumental pou res la. Pale saw konnen. Le ou we yon moun ap fe yon bagay cherche konprann avanw pale.

It's not always the word. Gen moun ki konn beni le yo tande music la selman. Yon group gason andwa ap chante kote yap fe harmony a goj yo selman epi nanm moun beni san yo pa di pyes parol. Men moun di Gloire a Dieu paske yo we grandeur Bondye nan group la. Se menm jan an tou le nou we yon bann ti mesye ki gen talan tankou Revelation kap chante e jwe pou Bondye se pou nou di gloire a Dieu paske yo te ka nan T-vice kap chante pou lacher. Yo te ka nan Nu-look kap chante ankor pou lacher men yo chwazi pou chante pou Bondye. Nou di gloire a Dieu le nou we mervey sa. Le wap pale konsa pa dim se exhorte wap exhorte yo paske se pa konsa yo exhorte moun.

1 if we are promoting the word then we must use the word.
2 what your saying could be true but how can that happen if we are using world music. music that was created for another reason. im just saying that the musician need to take time time out and pray for something from God it could be kompas but im sure it would be different from the kompas we know now. and its not only the kompas. i have heard some our artist use other american world music and change the words and put the word of God on it thats not right its in the Bible.
3 God is a creator he created us in his image why would he be content with us being copy cats or non creative?

Humble Servant, your #1 issue is either you don't read other people's posts or when you do read them you don't understand.

My point is not to convert anyone into seeing things differently. As a Christian, my MISSION -mandated by Christ- is not to satisfy those who have already accepted Jesus because they see things a certain way that has no bearing upon my faith or my decision to follow God, but to gain the souls of those who do not know Jesus yet.

As Paul was building the Christian church, the disciples (Jews) were crying foul like nuts in disagreement with the way Paul was preaching the Gospel that Jesus revealed to Him. At the end of the day, if Paul had quit his divine mission to listen to those "already in the church", Jesus would have to pick someone else to do the job. And since Jesus could not be wrong in His choice of Paul, Paul kept on doing what he was mandated for by Heaven until even those very Jewish disciples followed his path.

Jesus picked His Jewish disciples for the church (safe box), but He picked Paul for the World (exposed to everything, particularly the persecutions and the ignorance of those already in the church).

Does that sound familiar on this post?

Today, the world knows that Pauk is the #1 contributor to the establishment of Christianity, second only to the Holy Ghost.

When Jesus gives you a mission, that is personal. Somebody can tear himself up and down because he doesn't understand sqwat from the mandate you have from heaven. Your only goal is to satisfy the only one master you have; the one who shed his blood for you: Jesus.

Jesus picked His Jewish disciples for the church (safe box), but He picked Paul for the World (exposed to everything, particularly the persecutions and the ignorance of those already in the church). Jesus Himself died because of the ignorance of those in the Church. As we can see here on this site, the real problem of the Gospel (and Gospel Music) is those in the church.

Nothing new under the sun. (Eccl.) I just hope the Gospel artists who are reading these posts know the difference between the voice ofGod and that of the enemy.

During the 4+ years of my music ministry, more than 2,000 souls have come to Christ in Haiti alone and that during my "musical crusades"; let alone those who come to Christ without my knowing!!! All of that because GOD IS WITH ME AND APPROVES MY MINISTRY.

I feel more useful to heaven than those who have been saved before me but are looking for what's wrong in other people's ministries because they don't have one of their own. Yo pa itil syèl anyen epi y ap met baton nan wou moun k ap travay pou Kris. Kòm Jezu te rele yo: Yo se w pakèt bann ipokrit, yon bann tonbo blanchi!

They remain in the comfort of their church doctrine and are finding -with the help of the enemy- all sorts of excuses to NOT GO OUT TO FIND LOST SOULS as Jesus required of them.

To those I say what Paul said to those in the church who were trying to hamper his work in Christ: SATAN OU ANATEM!!!

&abriel AL RE LI SA MWEN AKRI YA MWEN PAP PALE DE PECHE MAP ESEYE EXPLIKE OU KE NOU UTILIZE KILTI CHAK JOU PRAN SAN OU LI EPI WAP KONPRAN

TI BOB OU KA LI SA MWEN TE EKRI YA EPI EXPLIKE &abriel POU MWEN MISYE PA KONPRAN SA MWEN TAP PALE

oh BY THE WAY IT WAS NICE TALKING TO YOU THIS MORNING YO SHOULD KNOW WHO THIS IS

@ &Gabriel

Mwen remercier tout fre mwne yo, ki ap cherche Bon Komprann pou Levanjil lan Kap ale Plus Loin, especialment frere mwne &Gabriel Ki mete yon ti temps a Kote pou li fe recherche pou vin patage ak nou and tout lot yo ki fe menm jan. Pa trop Lontan mwne dedikase tete mwen a fè yon seri de recherche sou menm bagay sa yo nou ap diskite la. mwne se yon kretyen Musicien, and Bondje Ban mwne chance pou mwne Jwe piano, Guitare and don pou mwne kap produit musique tou ak Chante pou gloire li. but li te important pou mwne pou mwne konnen ki type de music pou mwne jwe. selon sa mwne trouve lan Bible an e mwne invite nou tou frè mwne yo a fouye bible nou sou kestyon jwe misik pou Bondje, pa gen yon kote lan bible lan, NOUVEAU OU ANCIEN TESTAMENT ki mantione ki type de music pou nou jwe, men oui li mentione que nou dwe utilize instrument avec voix pou nou fe louange pou Seigneur nou an.
Jacques di nou :

"Toute grâce excellente et tout don parfait descendent d'en-haut, du Père des lumières. (1.17).

Definition ki gen pour la musique, yo anpil. Men Majorite auteurs yo di konsa ke music se yon bagay ki ale plus loin pase "pawol" et li permet nou exprime sentiment nou yo ak eta dam ke nou trouve ladann li. paske lòm lan li avan tou yon ETRE de Foi, de imaginasyon et de sentiment et plus pase rezon ki pure yo mizik pran yon gran plas nan tout civilisation.

Chak peyi lan monde lan gen style music yo yo jwe, and chak style music sa yo gen yon moun Bondje te bay yon intelligence pou fe yo. si tout don parfait vini nan Bondje, li sure que moun ki gen Don pou li kreye yon style music se lan Bondje li soti. Nan temps lotan le yon moun fe yon peche ou te blije al tuye bete pou ou padone peche nou ou bien le Bondje te fe yon bel bagay lan la vie ou. Satan fe menm bagay lan jounen jodi, le li trompe yon fre li di se li ki fe and fok ou bay li bet ou bien san moun.

So li pa etonant pou mwen pou Satan servi ak Don Bondje bay yon moun pou li di se li ki fe li paske se manteur li ye, li selman Bon pou nou fe atention ak pawol ki di lan Bible lan, le Bondje tap pale de culture se surtout moun ki de gen defo, comme yon bagay tradicionel si parent yo te fe, tankou servi lot dieux yo ect, men ki peye sou late beni ki pa tande yon style musique kelkonk and ki peyi sou late beni ki pa gen yon style musik kelkonk et ki te kreye pa yon moun ke Bondje te bay yon don li ka chwazi bay don li a lot pati an, men se pa paske se pa bondje ki bay li.

Mwen panse Kom Chretien nou dwe koumanse roule lang nou chak fwa nou pral pale and mande Bondje pou li ouvri je nou paske chak fwa Bondje bay intelligence pou fe yon bagay and ou mete li au service de lot dieux yo li pa kontan.

pou mwne Fini, mwne pa janm vraiment tande TiBOB, mwen tande muzik revelation yo, and mwne gen album Evangel. and mwne panse gen lot groupe tou ki ap fe Bon travay lan service Bondje an. mwne pa gen dwa Juge personne, paske se propre tete pa'm map juje si mwne fe sa.

sel sa mwne panse mwne si yon moun chwazi se konpa pou li jwe, ou menm se Gospel ou RnB ou jwe youn pa dwe kritike lot paske chak nan yo fe li pa respe yo gen pou Bondje and par amour yo gen pou pawol Bondje an, se menm jan Apotre Paul te di li pou moun ki manje tout manje ak moun ki pa manje tout manje ou pou moun ki chwazi que tout jou se menm ou sa ki chwazi ke tout jou pa menm.

Mwen toujours konseye Madanm mwne ki se yon chretienne ki ap chante pou Bondje, sel sa li besoin convaincu de li, li menm se yon moun ki ap fe travay Bondje et menm jan mwne toujours konseye tout rest groupe li an, paske si se Kompetition ou vin fe nan levanjil lan ou chire paske devan Bondje nou tout menm jan, and ke ou bay yon gro louange paske ou gen posibilite pou ou gen tout intrument, ke mwne bay li ak sel vwa mwne paske mwne pa gen intrument li recevwa tout menm jan, depi ou bay li ak tout kè.

Mwen selman Konseye, moun mwne konnen yo ki se Ricardeau Evangel, Ti Bob, Msye revelation and tout lot groupe yo Ske nou humble nan service Bondje an.

Mwen ecri sa pou fre Revelation mwne yo, lan Levanjil lan nou pa gen superstar, gen yonn lan fre yo ki te di li se superstar Bondje an, mwne ecri ti mots sa yo tou pou frere musicien ke mwne we lan Foto sou net lan ki ap jwe GiG ak lot groupe yo, maybe yo nan besoin paske, mwne konnen USA se yon peyi bill li ye. Men sel sa mwne sure et Certain Bondje Konn pran swen moun ki rete Fidel ak li.

To all the Gospel artists who read this I say this to you.

It's true that your work in the Kingdom of God is not perfect. But it's more profitable to Christ that you do an imperfect Job out there in His name than to be a perfect hypocrit trying to discourage those with God-sealed ministries.

I want you to know that. I'm going to give you some elements of improvement that I found in my communion with Christ in the ministry. It's up to you to accept or reject them. But whatever you do with them, I implore you to keep on doing what you're doing as imperfect as it is. As long as you're running for Christ, you are running the right run for the right cause.

speedy wrote:TI BOB .... BY THE WAY IT WAS NICE TALKING TO YOU THIS MORNING YO SHOULD KNOW WHO THIS IS

I know who you were since your very first post. I know the voice of those who share and help my ministry.

mwenpavoanyen, God bless you brother. M ap piye pou ou kounye a menm pou Bondye kontinye louvri je w pou w ka kontinye sipòte tout efò k ap fèt nan levanjil. ondye beni w mon frè.

E si ou vle gen yon ide de mizik Bondye konfye m yo, ou ka cheke kèk sou youtube. Mwen gen plis ke 23 videos poste sou li. Men 4 lenk lan pou 4 nan yo. Men ou ka wè tou le 23 pannan w w ap gade youn.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtchO48otXg&feature=channel_page

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keKeyLuZBvo&feature=channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJvqJ9XkoW4&feature=channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dR6sd8ofqw&feature=channel

Gen yon point lan, atik lan ki atire atansyon mwne, e mwne realize tout gen kretyen ki gen konesans de sa yo ap fe pou Bondje an. mwne vle remercie TiBob ki kite Bondje servi ak li, e ki kite konesans Bondje pase lan sa lap di avan menm li pale. Mwen panse &Gabriel tou fe effort pa li pou li servi ak Pawol ki gen lan bible lan, sou menm point yo nou ap discute. Mwen mande Bondje pou li toujours louvri lesprit nou. Mezami mwne santi pou seri de moun li plus important pou yo travay sou yon stil mizik pou yo jwe ke de servi ak mizik la menm pou yo fe travay Bondje an.
Bondje servie ak moun ki pa konnen non li pou li fe gran bagay, paske se li ki kreye tout moun and li fe sa li vle ak tout moun. Konbien moun satan bay intelijans, konbien moun satan bay souf de vie, konbien moun ke satan bay don pa menm yon moun sou late, cepandan moun ki manke konprann yo mete vi yo pou sèvis satan, yo mete talan yo pou yo fe louranj pou Djab lan. Mwen panse sa ki gen Bon konprann selman ka mete yo tou ba devan pisans Bondje. Paske se li menm ki bay Bon komprann se pa jan nou panse bagay yo, yo ye. mwne panse se Bondje fe moun se li menm ki mete tout sa ki bon lan moun lan and li bay li sa yo rele lib abit lan sa vle di moun lan libre pou li chwazi antre le bien et mal si ou chwa sa ki bon tout sa ou ap fe ap au service de sa ki bon, se menm jan tou la ye le ou chwazi sa ki mal la.

TIBOB servitè ou gen yon travay lan men ou, e se menm jan li ye pou tout lot groupe evanjelik yo. lan bib li di pa chwazi pou ou direktè, si ou pa santi ou gen ase force paske jujement ou an va pi dificile, paske se ou menm ki reponsab tout lot yo. Pawol sa pa fe pèsòn pè, selman mande Bondje asistance, avec grace li pou ki kouvri ou lan mission li va voye ou fè.

Atis kretyen yo, nan vrè tèm moun ki fè art jwe mizik, dwe konnen avant yo se yon misizien yo dwe yon kretyen. avant menm yo yon docteur, ou ingenieur yo dwe yon kretyen. Paske Bondje pa rele Docteur Intel, inGenieur Intel ou Mizityen intel men li rele nou tout Sèvitè li, moun ki vle gen Bon konprann, yon Mande Bondje pou guide yo, paske se li ki bay tout moun Bon konprann. Moun ki vle mache lan chemin Bondje mande li direction paske n'importe moun ki panse se yon carte geografik ou pral rale sou route Bondje an ou ap tombe lan trou ou pikan ap pike ou.

Yon Atis kretyen se yon servitè tankou tout moun kap sèvi Bondje li, Besoin Prier, Jeuner, e aprann pawol Bondje tankou tout kretyen aprann li. Se sak fe le ou se yon artiste kretyen ki deplase pou al jwe mizik yon lot kote ou pa ale pou ou al presenter yon Show, men ou ale pou yon misyon bien determine, kise chèche nanm pou Bondje...mwne renmen nou fre'm yo e mwne panse tou li impòtan pou nou konprann travay ke nou ap fe pou Bondje.

Frere mwen &Gabriel, mwen viv en Republic Dominicaine and mwen ale Leglise Dominicain, Dominicain Jwe yon Music ki rele TIPICO and BATCHATA, yo jwe li exactement menm jan nan leglize yo pou yo fe service Bondje. mwne panse le mwne tande Revelation ki jwe konpa and mwne tande Evangel tous deux jwe konpa men yo identifie comme groupe paske chak Musicien gen style pa yo. Mwne panse li dwe plis important pou nou prier pou fre nou yo ki ap jwe mizik pou cherche nanm pou Bondye, paske nou tout nou gen yon sel travay le yon Kretyen tonbe yo pa di, se Intel men yo di youn nan msye Evangelik yo, sa fè mwne santi ke nou gen yon sel but vre.

Nou gen anpil nan ti zanmi nou yo ki ale kite levanjil sa fe mwen mal, and li fe nou menm kom kretyen sanble yon paket moun ki pa gen anyen ki bon a ofri a talan nou yo. Mwen panse se Jan de panse sa yo ki koz sa, Paske olye nou fòme Jenn nou yo, nou pito kritike effort yo ap fe pour le non de levanjil, Men mwne di nou sa satan konnen ki importans li gen le yon jenn mizisyen chwazi jwe pou la Bbon nouvel Jezi an. E kwe mwen si nou vle li fe tout fason pou li pran li paske, nou pa pare yo ase pou sa.

mwenpavoanyen wrote:Gen yon point lan, atik lan ki atire atansyon mwne, e mwne realize tout gen kretyen ki gen konesans de sa yo ap fe pou Bondje an. mwne vle remercie TiBob ki kite Bondje servi ak li, e ki kite konesans Bondje pase lan sa lap di avan menm li pale. Mwen panse &Gabriel tou fe effort pa li pou li servi ak Pawol ki gen lan bible lan, sou menm point yo nou ap discute. Mwen mande Bondje pou li toujours louvri lesprit nou. Mezami mwne santi pou seri de moun li plus important pou yo travay sou yon stil mizik pou yo jwe ke de servi ak mizik la menm pou yo fe travay Bondje an.
Bondje servie ak moun ki pa konnen non li pou li fe gran bagay, paske se li ki kreye tout moun and li fe sa li vle ak tout moun. Konbien moun satan bay intelijans, konbien moun satan bay souf de vie, konbien moun ke satan bay don pa menm yon moun sou late, cepandan moun ki manke konprann yo mete vi yo pou sèvis satan, yo mete talan yo pou yo fe louranj pou Djab lan. Mwen panse sa ki gen Bon konprann selman ka mete yo tou ba devan pisans Bondje. Paske se li menm ki bay Bon komprann se pa jan nou panse bagay yo, yo ye. mwne panse se Bondje fe moun se li menm ki mete tout sa ki bon lan moun lan and li bay li sa yo rele lib abit lan sa vle di moun lan libre pou li chwazi antre le bien et mal si ou chwa sa ki bon tout sa ou ap fe ap au service de sa ki bon, se menm jan tou la ye le ou chwazi sa ki mal la.

TIBOB servitè ou gen yon travay lan men ou, e se menm jan li ye pou tout lot groupe evanjelik yo. lan bib li di pa chwazi pou ou direktè, si ou pa santi ou gen ase force paske jujement ou an va pi dificile, paske se ou menm ki reponsab tout lot yo. Pawol sa pa fe pèsòn pè, selman mande Bondje asistance, avec grace li pou ki kouvri ou lan mission li va voye ou fè.

Atis kretyen yo, nan vrè tèm moun ki fè art jwe mizik, dwe konnen avant yo se yon misizien yo dwe yon kretyen. avant menm yo yon docteur, ou ingenieur yo dwe yon kretyen. Paske Bondje pa rele Docteur Intel, inGenieur Intel ou Mizityen intel men li rele nou tout Sèvitè li, moun ki vle gen Bon konprann, yon Mande Bondje pou guide yo, paske se li ki bay tout moun Bon konprann. Moun ki vle mache lan chemin Bondje mande li direction paske n'importe moun ki panse se yon carte geografik ou pral rale sou route Bondje an ou ap tombe lan trou ou pikan ap pike ou.

Yon Atis kretyen se yon servitè tankou tout moun kap sèvi Bondje li, Besoin Prier, Jeuner, e aprann pawol Bondje tankou tout kretyen aprann li. Se sak fe le ou se yon artiste kretyen ki deplase pou al jwe mizik yon lot kote ou pa ale pou ou al presenter yon Show, men ou ale pou yon misyon bien determine, kise chèche nanm pou Bondje...mwne renmen nou fre'm yo e mwne panse tou li impòtan pou nou konprann travay ke nou ap fe pou Bondje.

Frere mwen &Gabriel, mwen viv en Republic Dominicaine and mwen ale Leglise Dominicain, Dominicain Jwe yon Music ki rele TIPICO and BATCHATA, yo jwe li exactement menm jan nan leglize yo pou yo fe service Bondje. mwne panse le mwne tande Revelation ki jwe konpa and mwne tande Evangel tous deux jwe konpa men yo identifie comme groupe paske chak Musicien gen style pa yo. Mwne panse li dwe plis important pou nou prier pou fre nou yo ki ap jwe mizik pou cherche nanm pou Bondye, paske nou tout nou gen yon sel travay le yon Kretyen tonbe yo pa di, se Intel men yo di youn nan msye Evangelik yo, sa fè mwne santi ke nou gen yon sel but vre.

Nou gen anpil nan ti zanmi nou yo ki ale kite levanjil sa fe mwen mal, and li fe nou menm kom kretyen sanble yon paket moun ki pa gen anyen ki bon a ofri a talan nou yo. Mwen panse se Jan de panse sa yo ki koz sa, Paske olye nou fòme Jenn nou yo, nou pito kritike effort yo ap fe pour le non de levanjil, Men mwne di nou sa satan konnen ki importans li gen le yon jenn mizisyen chwazi jwe pou la Bbon nouvel Jezi an. E kwe mwen si nou vle li fe tout fason pou li pran li paske, nou pa pare yo ase pou sa.

im not saying not to play kompas im saying to do something different from the world if zin and carimi can sound different and they both playing kompas why cant we, and to many artist bands just recycle world music taking parts of songs whole song in the name of God. Let the Kompas come from with in inspired from God that it may be sanctified dont go listening to world music to write. as many of you said worship is personal not personal preferance, where chose from the world but chose in our heart and create as the creator who made us in his image. the world should be looking on to us not us to them we should make the trends that promote God. i hope this is more clear.

Mwen santi mwen Konsène pou lavi Frè Roosevelt ki te ap fe bel Mizik pou Bondje, ki kite li pou li al jwe pou fe lom plezi, mwne santi mwen menm jan an tou pou batè Apocalypse 2000 lan ki lan T-vice konnye an e san mwne pa bliye tout lot fre mwne yo nan jezi ke mwne pa konnen. Mwen panse nou nan yon epok kote Kretyen ayityen dwe koumanse prier pou jenn Mizisyen nou yo. paske travay lan pa facil.
mwen pale a base d'experience ke mwen fe lan groupe evanjelik, Bondje ban nou talan e nou fè efò tou pou nou te rete lan prezans li men se pa tout moun ki fò menm jan. gen Problem economik, gen tout problem ki kap vini men nou dwe konnen la bible anseye pou nou ankouraje youn ak lot. Legliz te ede Disip yo ak tout jezi yo te bay yo manje e rad pou yo mete, bay yo Bourik pou yo fe pakou yo.

Jodia nou pa mande ou pou ou bay jenn atsi sa yo tout sa yo, men nou kap achte CD yo, nou kap ale lan concert yo, Legliz kap mete ansanm pou yo produit CD atis yo pou pawol lan ale plus loin e atis lan tou kap manje yon pain ak li ak fanmi li, ki role legliz genyen lan sa kap rive Jenn atis yo Jodi an.
Mwen pap pale de Beton yo mwne ap pale de nou menm, Konbien fwa nou di TIBOB fe yon album ki ka touche ke le monde yo nou pral mete ansanm pou li ka produit li plus, kombien fwa pasteur nou yo panse a ede jenn mizisyen yo avanse ak travay sacre yo gen lan men yo an, konbien fwa nou menm fre, sè nou al we yo lakay yo bay yo yon mo de ankourajman pou kap kenbe travay seyè, 3 nan Msye Relation yo kite paske yo vle jere bill yo genyen ect, konbien fwa menm le nou pat Lonje lajan bay Jenn sa yo men nou te ankouraje yo lute ak lafwa.

Men mwne we anpil Kritik ki di se paske yo ap jwe yon mizik ki pa mizik Bondje ki fe yo tombe lan piej, ak ki dwa ou jije yon pitit Bondje. Mwen selman ka Konseye Fre se mwen yo Lute lan lafwa paske le ou Vhwazi fe travay Seyè li beni ou e li louvri Pòt pou ou. Mesye Revelation yo tombe, anpil moun we yo, men ou menm ou besoin al confese paske, si ou pa kite bagay mal ou ap fe Bondje ap avili ou Gran jounen. Mwen panse chak moun ki ap lire parol sa yo gen faibless pa yo inclu mwne menm ki ap ecri li an. Men ke Bondje Rentre lan Febles nou chak e ke li ede nou a konprann pawol li yo avek bel bagay li mete a la dispozition de nou pou nou fe travay li.

mwen renmen nou tout

we are supose to judge the prophets of God as to figure out who is real and who's fake. christ says you shall know them by thier fruits. but we are to judge not by apperence or favoratisim. we must judge with love and justice and with the understaning of God. we must have a spirit of disernment. the abbilty to disinguish what the devil has incorperated in God's work.

Leviticus 19:15 'You shall do no injustice in judgment; you shall not be partial to the poor nor defer to the great, but you are to judge your neighbor fairly. Isaiah 11:3 And He will delight in the fear of the LORD, And He will not judge by what His eyes see, Nor make a decision by what His ears hear;

this idea that we cant lovingly make the point that someone could be mistaken about the word is the devil's trick to prevent us from moving closer to Christ

&abriel wrote:we are supose to judge the prophets of God as to figure out who is real and who's fake. christ says you shall know them by thier fruits.

And based on the Word of God you invoked yourself, my brother, I have 2 questions for you:

1) If when those Gospel Groups are ministering in that style YOU don't see fit with God, a lot of people (even just one soul) come to give their lives to Christ, don't you think that's the RIGHT FRUIT Jesus requested from all of us? (by the way, you already said it, so don't contradict yourself for the sake of being right).

2) Do you know the PRICE OF A SOUL? (This question is to hint you that once an artist or a Gospel band is the vehicle through which the Holy Spirit gets one soul for heaven, that artist/band is real no matter how we feel about THE WAY they're ministering.)

monche gabriel bay vag tande

HELLO! MR. Ruben

Nan ka sa la-a, li tap pi bon si ou louvri yon "late night talk show Pou Atis yo wi". Lol

Bon DEBA ak respè san malonèt: Se Paske VERITE ap dòmi.
Ki mirak misye poko rantre nan koze Ti Bob ak Zanj &abriel. Lol

One Luv,

Mwen miss ou la VERITE kote ou ye brother?


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