GROUP U.I.C IN BOSTON MASSACHUSETTS NEW MUSIC "LEVANJIL"

&abriel wrote:"Satan Pas fache". you guys have brought more of the world into the church. this is like holy hip hop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyHvhT7sgqc&feature=related

Brother Jay wrote:HisPraise. Wow before I listened to the song I thought they were cursing in the song or something. Jn Michel, I agree with you one hundred percent. A song is worldly or a gospel song from the content of the song, not the way it is played. Haitians will never progress because we despise ourselves and hold ourselves back. Let me ask you why is it ok to play american love music at a christian and not haitian if the songs have the same content. Simple we reject ourselves. How do we expect people to except us if we don't except ourselves. Jamaican gospel sounds like raggae, african gospel unless you hear hallelujah sometimes you wouldn't know whether it is voodoo music are not.

HisPraise wrote:A REFAIRE!
BAGAY KOPIE VIE STIL VIE SON MEDIOK DEYO EPI VINN LAGEL NAN FIGI LEGLIZ SAAA DOUE FINI!!

ZERO BARE POUNOU! SAPA MIZIK EVANJELIK
BOUT BAGAY SIWEL SAA PAP PASE!!!

Jn Michel wrote:

Brother Jay wrote:HisPraise. Wow before I listened to the song I thought they were cursing in the song or something. Jn Michel, I agree with you one hundred percent. A song is worldly or a gospel song from the content of the song, not the way it is played. Haitians will never progress because we despise ourselves and hold ourselves back. Let me ask you why is it ok to play american love music at a christian and not haitian if the songs have the same content. Simple we reject ourselves. How do we expect people to except us if we don't except ourselves. Jamaican gospel sounds like raggae, african gospel unless you hear hallelujah sometimes you wouldn't know whether it is voodoo music are not.

I could understand if they stole a line or arrangement from a secular group but it is not the case. They simply play their country rhym.

HisPraise wrote:I' m not quite sure how we get from a simple constructive criticism to lack of education and ignorance!!
CLARIFICATION: My comment wasn't meant to demean or belittle your band, and i must tell U that It had none to do with culture, genre or whatever you want it to be. In the contrary, musical diversity is divine! God is too great and the human experience too complex to think that one kind of music will always best express the dynamics of our relationship with Him.
When you appreciate fine arts, you simply cannot support mediocrities and believe it or not constructive criticism matters.
Unless we have a High view of God we can never grasp the concept of presenting acceptable offerings to Him. You can listen to that track over and over till you get caught up into emotional high, but you can never to decode the message the lead vocal is trying to convey at the very intro. The logical flow of the lyrics is questionable(began as reflective and ended up being subjective) at best, but since any Kreyol speaking person should be able to grasp the main point it does not represent too much of deal to me.
BUT, LIKE IT OR NOT! When you singing God's praise wholeheartedly, there can be no room for your buddies during that offering time " shouting names during solo and breaks." Unknowingly, you're bringing God down to the very human level. Your music is fine, but no one is too educated to receive guidance specially when the the offering is for God.

You may worship in any style, but make God the object of your praise, no name calling during this time.


MyTalents, HisPraise!

HisPraise wrote:I' m not quite sure how we get from a simple constructive criticism to lack of education and ignorance!!
CLARIFICATION: My comment wasn't meant to demean or belittle your band, and i must tell U that It had none to do with culture, genre or whatever you want it to be. In the contrary, musical diversity is divine! God is too great and the human experience too complex to think that one kind of music will always best express the dynamics of our relationship with Him.
When you appreciate fine arts, you simply cannot support mediocrities and believe it or not constructive criticism matters.
Unless we have a High view of God we can never grasp the concept of presenting acceptable offerings to Him. You can listen to that track over and over till you get caught up into emotional high, but you can never to decode the message the lead vocal is trying to convey at the very intro. The logical flow of the lyrics is questionable(began as reflective and ended up being subjective) at best, but since any Kreyol speaking person should be able to grasp the main point it does not represent too much of deal to me.
BUT, LIKE IT OR NOT! When you singing God's praise wholeheartedly, there can be no room for your buddies during that offering time " shouting names during solo and breaks." Unknowingly, you're bringing God down to the very human level. Your music is fine, but no one is too educated to receive guidance specially when the the offering is for God.

You may worship in any style, but make God the object of your praise, no name calling during this time.


MyTalents, HisPraise!

&abriel wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9colO9fhI7o&feature=related
If you do any research on any famouse artist or musicians you will find that the music is spiritual. it moves them into modes it provokes. so if a writer who creates a song for the glory of the body and self ther can provoke this with out lyrics. this why music is international it projects to all the same the way as it was intended. example a love song in spanish, chineese, brazilian will have the same effect in any part of the world. just as a gospel song will do the same. the truth is that many of these gaspas players are just trying to compinsate for the konmpas world that they could not make it in so they do it in church. they are inspired by the world which they shiuld not be, the Bible says we are to be distinguished from the world. Kassav took konpas and did something different now we call it zouk not konzouk but zouk, different from konpas. they did this with the intent to do something different. allthough konpas players claim zouk came from konpas it still stands on its own. WHY CAN'T THESE GASPAS MUSICIAN CREATE SOMETHING NEW FRESH they really on konpas to promote the word because konpas is commercial in our community but they dont trust the word that will draw them, the people. they are afraid to create something new. the secular artist has more faith in themselves then the gaspel artist do in the word. the sucular artist is allways willing to try something new with the belief that the public will like it but the gospel artist it looking for something the public likes to infuse the word. in other words we are trying to draw them when the Bible says "lift me and I will draw them!"

Brother Jay wrote:

&abriel wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9colO9fhI7o&feature=related
If you do any research on any famous artist or musicians you will find that the music is spiritual. it moves them into modes it provokes. so if a writer who creates a song for the glory of the body and self they can provoke this with out lyrics. this why music is international it projects to all the same the way as it was intended. example a love song in spanish, Chinese, brazilian will have the same effect in any part of the world. just as a gospel song will do the same. the truth is that many of these gaspas players are just trying to compensate for the konpas world that they could not make it in so they do it in church. they are inspired by the world which they should not be, the Bible says we are to be distinguished from the world. Kassav took konpas and did something different now we call it zouk not konzouk but zouk, different from konpas. they did this with the intent to do something different. All-though konpas players claim zouk came from konpas it still stands on its own. WHY CAN'T THESE GASPAS MUSICIAN CREATE SOMETHING NEW FRESH they really on konpas to promote the word because konpas is commercial in our community but they don't trust the word that will draw them, the people. they are afraid to create something new. the secular artist has more faith in themselves then the gospel artist do in the word. the secular artist is always willing to try something new with the belief that the public will like it but the gospel artist it looking for something the public likes to infuse the word. in other words we are trying to draw them when the Bible says "lift me and I will draw them!"

Please read you comment again. Your thoughts are not clear. You start off saying one thing then go to another. I get what you are saying in the end but the beginning does not support your argument. A lot of lives have been changed through music. Times change and music change right along with it. I don't think it's a secular verse spiritual thing its more of keeping up with the times. If you listen to old school konpas it is different from new school konpas. The older christians songs sounded like the konpas of that time, now there is a new sound. Thats what I believe it is. God said to make a joyful noise, he did not instruct us of how he wants His music to sound. We are the ones that put a label on music and said this should sound this way and that should sound that way.

HisPraise wrote:
Please read you comment again. Your thoughts are not clear. You start off saying one thing then go to another. I get what you are saying in the end but the begining does not support your argument. A lot of lives have been changed through music. Times change and music change right along with it. I don't think its a secular verse spiritual thing its more of keeping up with the times. If you listen to old school konpa it is different from new school konpa. The older christians songs sounded like the konpa of that time, now there is a new sound. Thats what I believe it is. God said to make a joyful noise, he did not instruct us of how he wants His music to sound. We are the ones that put a label on music and said this should sound this way and that should sound that way.

Brother Jay

Hey Jay, &ABRIEL's comment is so explicit even my 5 years old niece would have no problem grasping the message. Well, I guess that's how it's! when folks come on board with presuppositions to dismiss good ideas a priori.....

To alphonse!!
I guess you're blocking not only your ears but eyes as well! Have you read Ps33, it says" sing to the LORD a New song" Not a subpar song. If the secular world is getting tired of that very particular keyboard sound that UIC used(it becomes redundant and annoying as well), how much motivation do we need to go after something NEW. Since shouting to your buddies(in God's offering) is not much of a big deal to you. I'll not comment any further on that.

Recommended reading: knowledge of the Holy( A.w.towzer) Not a substitute for the Scripture, but an excellent book.